Now seeking the most badass place to live ever in San Francisco. Or at least a vaguely nice place.

Went bachelor pad-hunting this weekend with Stephen and Alex this afternoon. The highlights:

  • South Beach is very laid back... people are definitely paying an extra $500-$1000/month premium just to be in the city but to get a very suburban experience. It is remarkably like Lower Queen Anne in Seattle in atmosphere -- just outside of the city, still close to major landmarks (sports stadium) but an upwardly mobile cast of yuppies. It is city living with a premium without the tourists and "urban elements." I hate to admit it, but I liked this area the most. It's the newest, quietest, and most convenient area in SF, but it's also the priciest.

  • The Marina ended up being a bust -- wasted $30 on cab fare out there because an utterly negligent property manager forgot to call us to cancel. Bastards. This part of the city is obviously 10 degrees colder than the rest of SF. If you add perpetual clouds to the cold wind of the Marina, subtract $500 to $1000/month in rent, and you have the Inner Sunset.

  • We cabbed it again back SOMA, this time to the heart of the Tenderloin -- 6th and Natoma. While preparing my compatriots for the urban elements of 6th St, our cab driver broke into the conversation to say "Don't worry about the 6th Street Boys... hey, you're Asian. Just tell them you're viet and they'll leave you alone." Good to know. I'll tell you the full story in detail if you ask me. Lets just say it was a cultural experience of the first order.

  • The Tenderloin loft itself was pretty impressive (huge bedrooms, 5 stories, marble/concrete everything, tons of glass, and a gorgeous roof deck), but the agent explained the place to be "on the knife's edge of gentrification" -- from the window we could tell from the graffiti just one building over that the insane 5 story luxury loft was ACTUALLY on the front line of a wedge driving through the Tenderloin. It was definitely not a place I would let my girlfriend walk to alone (let alone at night), so that's basically out.

  • The Y Scraper (Crystal Tower Apartments) in North Beach continues to amaze for its location, view, and reasonable price. Too bad they only have 2 BR's available. Also, one heck of a walk from BART. Get used to slow MUNI rides... North Beach is a pretty good area to live, but then it's absolutely crawling with tourists.

San Francisco has many a storied neighborhood, and the feel of each is absolutely different. Overall, rents are at relatively insane levels for 3 BR options, and we're adopting a 'wait and see' attitude to the whole thing. I've always wanted to live in the city proper, but have always ended up in the burbs, so I'm pretty excited / new to the market.

If anyone has tips on finding a great place for a good price in SF, let me know! =)

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11 comments

Sep 20, 2008
Theo Au-Yeung said...
South Beach is pretty lame, new but doesn't have any character. The Marina is for frat boys and Republicans. Not sure if that's your game.

SoMA is your best bet if you're looking to have a couple of roommates. There are some great lofts hidden in the alley ways. You'll need to find them, and once you do you will need to roll up your sleeves and do a little work. Ask Dave Le, they used to live in a pretty nice loft space on Clara between 5th and 6th.

Sep 20, 2008
sampurtill said...
SoMA isn't a real SF neighborhood... You'd be a lot better off in something like North Beach, Cole Valley, or Lower Haight. I went neighborhood shopping over the course of a few weeks and found Lower Haight and North Beach to be in my list of top neighborhoods.

I have some friends that live in the T-loin and have never had problems (they're white too). I think you only get problems there if you go out and look for them.

Sep 21, 2008
Michael Levin said...
I don't know what the prices are like these days but the Mission District is San Francisco's greatest neighborhood. (I lived there ten years).
Sep 21, 2008
Garry Tan said...
I actually would *LOVE* to live in the Mission / Mission Dolores (would be perfect, I think) but my roommates want to live someplace in the SOMA/NorthBeach/Marina triangle such that all the nightspots are cabbable for less than $10.

Sadness. I recognize SoMA is kind of dead / for yuppies. But what the heck... I am a yuppie.

Sep 21, 2008
Michael Levin said...
Oh well. North Beach is great too. But if you haven't yet sometime you should check out La Taqueria at 25th and Mission, widely regarded as SF's best taqueria.

http://www.yelp.com/biz/la-taqueria-san-francisco

Sep 22, 2008
Maggie Cheung said...
SOMA/S. Beach are the new, it, trendy spots for yuppies. If you want a place that's contemporary and new, this is the neighborhood to be at. Depending on where you are, weekends can be dead since they're developing neighborhoods and not a lot of places are open on the weekend. There are little to no cafes..if you're into that type of thing.

Ditto on Marina = frat boys.

I would never live in the "TL" (Tenderloin)...too scary. :X

I've always wanted to check out N. Beach. It seems like a cool neighborhood with a ton of restaurants/bars/cafes within reach.

I live in Nob Hill and I LOVE it. Everything is within walking distance - cafes, restaurants, bars, downtown, work, etc.

One thing to consider - do you have a car? If so, Nob Hill is not a place you want to live in wo a parking spot/garage. It is a nightmare to find parking!

Sep 22, 2008
Evan Bartlett said...
The Mission's got a lot of night spots too! I'm right on the border of Noe Valley/Mission because I couldn't find any places big enough in the Mission to have room for a work space.

Whats in SOMA/North Beach/Marina that makes it so appealing? I thought it was yuppies and tourists (though Noe Valley has the yuppies and baby strollers)?

Sep 22, 2008
Perry said...
So you're moving to the city now huh. Life is so different when you're so cooler than us. HAHA
Sep 22, 2008
Tasha said...
Hi Garry -- I live in SOMA right now, and I love the street we're on. We almost got a gorgeous loft in the tenderloin, but then we saw a gorgeous loft for cheaper on Berry Street (which is the safest street on SOMA), and were instantly sold.

This police mapping tool was instrumental in my decision: http://gispubweb.sfgov.org/website/san_francisco_community/default.asp

Sep 22, 2008
Antonio D'souza said...
How much is too much? Our gorgeous 3 BR place in Potrero, really close to both The Mission and SOMA, was well under 3 grand.
Sep 23, 2008
Garry Tan said...
Thanks for all the tips everyone!

@Perry -- always wanted to live in the city =)

@Antonio -- looking to pay less than $1500/month in a roommate situation so yeah, wow 3k for a 3br is great! i like potrero hill too.

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